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Q U A R T Z   P A R T Y   R E P O R T


           By Pazza of LSD


Every group arranges a party, some get
cancelled, some are a failure and some
are disaster prone.  Luckily the
Quartz party suffered from none of
these, for those who don't know it
took place at Bridgewater in Somerset,
on 8th and 9th of August 1992.

Guys started to arrive at my house on
the Friday before our long journey,
this time though there wasn't as many
as usual, this is because not many LSD
guys fancied a five and a half hour
road journey.  Watchman and his friend
John where the first to arrive,
followed by Bernard Sumner and Mub.
Shagratt and Maximan popped in for a
couple of hours to meet everyone, but
didn't fancy the road-trip on the day.
It was a reasonably quiet evening, we
looked at our two releases, Grapevine
issue 11 and Total Kaos.  After eating
the obligatory pizza and watching some
TV and new demos, we crashed out one
by one.

Next morning the alarm rang at an hour
that I normally go to bed at, not get
up.  I woke up first and kicked those
asleep on my floor to wake them up.
Fish arrived about 5.30am.  Bernard
Sumner, Watchman, John, Mub and myself
jumped into the cars and we left at
6.00am.

The journey was rather uneventful,
there was some bad smog at Bristol
followed by a tailback and we noticed
some villages with what seemed funny
names to us before we hit Bridgewater
(although the locals there probably
think our villages have funny names
here!).  We finally arrived at the
party-place at 11.30am, five and a
half hours later, phew!

We where greeted by Majic Mushroom on
the door which is enough to scare off
even a hardened party goer (only
joking Trevor!) and paid for our
tickets, entering the building I met a
few of my other friends in Quartz
including Jaz and Mutant Mango.  The
main party-room had no-one I really
knew in it so I went upstairs to the
bar for a couple of hours where I met
Deadbeat and D-Man, and some other
cool guys.

I returned downstairs about 2.00pm and
we set up our Amiga and talked to a
few friends who had arrived at last.

A local guy called Charles was telling
me about a local scrumpy place he knew
that sold Cider really cheap, so we
raised some cash and off Mub and
myself went with him.  It was a 10
minute drive there through scenic
countryside.  The scrumpy was £3.50
for a gallon, or only £3.00 if you
bring your own container.  We bought 6
gallons and went back to the party
place.  When we arrived back most guys
couldn't believe the price and some
others set off to buy more!  It was
pretty good stuff too!

What followed next was the music and
graphics competition, there where
about 25 tunes entered, and as I
didn't have the stamina to sit for two
hours of music, I retired to the bar
with Clairvoyant of the Dual Crew and
Mr T ex-Nemesis, we stayed there for
about 3 hours and returned downstairs.

The night was drawing close, we
released Grapevine 11, which went down
well, and I sat and chatted with many
Quartz members, and met some guys from
Destiny.

Data and Atlantis arrived, we
discussed entering the realtime demo
coding competition, no-one got excited
about it, so we eventually dropped the
idea in place of drinking a lot!

It was late evening and Hydlite of
Quartz was blind-drunk, well he was
only 14!  I went back to Jaz's house
with Fish for a sleep.

While we where gone Mub went to a
nightclub or two with some Quartz
lads.  After Mub arrived back and fell
asleep, someone wrote "I'm a Bisexual"
on his cheek in biro and photographed
him!  hehehe!

Next morning we arrived back at the
party place, and everyone looked like
zombies because of lack of sleep, I
felt OK though after my sleep in a
bed!  Watchman and John where asleep
on a table at the back of the room,
someone had tied his shoelace to the
table leg while he slept!  Time for a
pint, damn, the bar was shut till
noon!

Next was the Demo competition which I
decided to vote in (seeing as the bar
was shut, and there was nothing much
to read in the "Sunday Sport", not
that I normally read it you
understand!).

The voting system was the fairest I
have seen at a UK party, no "elitism"
here!  Everyone got a voting form,
everyone watched the demos, everyone
voted.  Quartz won some competitions,
but NONE where (or could be) fixed,
and I was there when the votes where
counted.  The results are at the end
of this report.  Then we judged the
realtime coding competition, there
where only 2 entries, but the winning
demo was excellent for the time
allowed, and I am sure no matter how
many other entries there could have
been, SJE would still have still won.

At last the bar opened, after a couple
of pints we took part in the group tug
of war, which LSD won, the Silents
would have beaten us, but their team
where disqualified as they only had
one Silents member in their team.
Then followed the disk throwing
competition and other weirdness, which
went down well!

After getting copies of the party
releases it was mid afternoon so I
decided to interview some guys along
with Bernard Sumner.  After
interviewing Paradroid of Anarchy and
starting an interview with Ranx of
Quartz, Mub announced his arm had
swollen up after the tug of war, it
looked quite bad so we decided to head
for home and visit a hospital on the
way.

We said goodbye to our friends, old
and new, and off we went.  After an
hour stay at Gloucester hospital, Mub
was told his arm was just strained and
despite it was hurting him badly, was
not really damaged, so we set off
again for home.

We arrived home in better time than
the journey down.  We where tired
after the travelling and looked at my
mail.  There was a letter from an 11
year old lamer offering me cracked
software, we had a good giggle at that
one!

To sum it up, a very good party, the
best I had been to, but there where so
many people missing, due to it being
so far down South, other parties
should adopt the voting system Quartz
used, which is the fairest!  Also they
should consider that the Quartz prizes
where all in CASH which can be shared
out between coders and musicians etc.
NOT in hardware which can't be.  Quite
a few people let Quartz down with
tables, projection screen and other
things, but they managed to work
everything out, well done Jaz and
Quartz.

There is talk of another Quartz party
at a similar time in 1993, will I be
there?  I'm not sure, its too far to
go, they need a more northern venue,
but that's only my opinion, it was a
fun weekend, and I rarely got bothered
by losers!







The results-------------------------->
            S U M M E R   C O N F E R E N C E   9 2   R E S U L T S


                           M U S I C   R E S U L T S

1st - Snare/Quartz             - Analysis                    - £50.00/trophy
2nd - Bernard Sumner/LSD       - Cry Baby                    - £25.00
3rd - Fobia/Silents            - Captivated                  - £10.00


                         G R A P H I C   R E S U L T S

1st - Elwood/Delicious Designs - Deadbeat                    - £50.00/trophy
2nd - Fish/LSD                 - Hands                       - £25.00
3RD - Scorch/Independent       - Gore                        - £10.00


                            D E M O   R E S U L T S

1st - Paradroid/Anarchy        - Deja Vu                     - £150.00/trophy
2nd - Ranx/Quartz              - Dynamic Illusions           - £70.00
3rd - Majic Mushroom/QTZ       - Journey into Divine Madness - £30.00






















                  R E A L - T I M E   D E M O   R E S U L T S

1st - SJE/Independent          - Four-screen Multi-demo      - £10.00
Runner up - ??/Cybernetix      - Cycling screen picture      - No prize


                           D I S K   T H R O W I N G

1st - Oxo/???                  - A long way                  - No prize
2nd - Watchman/LSD             - Not quite as far            - No prize
3rd - ???                      - Almost as far               - No prize


                              T U G   O F   W A R

1st - LSD                                                    - £10.00
2nd - Quartz                                                 - No prize
3rd - Destiny                                                - No prize

Prize draw on the voting forms went to Spud of Destiny.
Lamest production went to Gollum's Parents!                              
                                                                         end.

  QUARTZ SUMMER CONFERENCE 92 REPORT


     By Majic Mushroom of Quartz


I set off for the party with Suicide
of Doom on Thursday 6th of August
around 7.00pm.  We filled up the car
with petrol and set off down the
motorway towards Paradroid/Anarchy's
house.  We arrived there about 8:30
and he showed me his demo and I showed
him mine (oo-er missus!)  After about
an hour we set off once more to pick
up USM of Delicious Design and
Mfd/Silents at USM's house in the
middle of nowhere special in
Derbyshire.

After some lame driving because of
useless and contradicting road signs
we eventually arrived in a small
village and knocked on a door to find
USM's house.  Some old woman came to
the door and told us which was his
house.  We found it about 11:30 and
knocked on the door to be greeted by a
worried "I didn't think you were
coming" USM!  After a nice coffee and
some slaggings of the lame
Synchronised swimming in the Olympics
we set off again and found a 24 hour
garage.  We filled up again and
stuffed our faces with crisps and coke
and eventually we got onto a nice dual
carriageway with no other cars!  After
some time we got onto the M42 and then
the M5.

We stopped at a Motorway service
station to fill up again and had a
nice long break from driving.

This is where we decided to ring Jaz's
house and when he answered we promptly
shouted "SOOOOON!", to imply we would
be there in about an hour!  How wrong
we were!  (By the way, this was about
2:30 am!) We looked at the Autoroute
which said to come off the motorway at
junction 23.  Well, we passed Junction
22 and saw the sign "Bridgwater 8
miles".  Just as we where all thinking
Yeah Mate and Smart - BOOOM!  At first
we thought it was a blow out but as we
were travelling about 80 mph and were
still alive we guessed again.  I
looked at the temperature gauge, it
was rapidly shooting up!  I pulled
over onto the hard shoulder and put on
the hazard warning lights and lifted
the bonnet!  Jeeez!  It was like a
sauna!  We spotted the problem
straight away, the top hose of the
radiator had split and blown!  So, me,
USM and Mfd walked to the S.O.S phone
and spoke to the bloke who took my
details and informed National
Breakdown of my whereabouts while USM
decided it was fun to run to the
central reservation of the motorway
and back to the side!  Hmm strange
humour I guess!

After 2 hours National Breakdown
showed up and towed us to Jaz's house,
just 8 miles away!  Arrrgh!  Just as
we pulled up we were greeted by ganja
smoking Chopper and Jaz (at 6 in the
morning!) and also Mutant Mango!
Well, the bloke said I would have my
car back by about 4 in the afternoon.
The lying bastard!  I got it back at
10:30 after 3 phone calls!

The so-called-mechanic had driven my
car without putting any water or oil
back into it!  And he says he's a
fucking mechanic!  Stone me!  Before I
got my car back, Jaz had returned from
the party place with the others
totally pissed off due to some
problems they had had.  Firstly, we
were told we could have the tables but
not the chairs, the P.A system which
we were promised didn't show up, and
to top it all, the kitchens were
condemned by the Department of Health,
so we could not have any food being
served!  Great eh?  And this all
happened the night before.  Bloody
wonderful.

At first we all thought about mass
suicide because we knew the party
would be an absolute failure due to
these problems but we were rescued at
the "Eleventh Hour", so to speak by a
cool guy called Lawson who supplied us
with all we needed at the last minute.
We would like to stress our undying
gratitude to his guy for helping the
party to be a success and for his
mother showing up on Sunday to cook
bacon, hot-dogs etc...

So, I finally got my car back, and Jaz
returned from the party place once
again, this time a very happy and
eased man!  I put the finishing
touches to my demo and went to bed
around 1:45 am.

Next morning we were woken up by
Mutant Mango coming into the room.  We
got up and I had a very nutritious
breakfast!  Heinz Beef Soup and a cup
of tea!  Yum Yum!

I crunched my demo, had a wash etc and
walked down to the party place with
Paradroid, Suicide and Snare after
going to the shop to steal some stuff!
Well, Snare did anyway!  We got to the
party place, it was fairly quiet, but
we expected this to be the case for
only 10:30.  I sat around for a while
talking to Laydock about coding and
then decided I would do my duty and go
on the door for a wee while.  So,
there I was, taking peoples cash and
punching tickets for the next four
hours!

Not much happened that day, the hall
began to fill up at a rather rapid
pace which pleased us!  While the
Graphics competition was on, someone
called Kryme had supposedly had his
action replay stolen and wanted Jaz
to give him the money for a new one
out of the competition prize-money!
What a fucking cheek!  Anyway, some
guys had a whip round and came up with
36 quid for him which was pretty good
spirit I think.  Then later on, the
same guy approached Jaz and said, "Oh
yeah, I forgot to tell you that
someone's nicked my external drive as
well!" (Cheeky bastard!).  Well, Jaz
didn't forget to tell this little kid
where to stick his head I can tell
you!  Some people will try anything
for cash!

Eventually night came, a lot of guys
sat in the separate area smoking pot,
drinking and generally having a laugh
at Hydlides expense as he was totally
pissed.  Several people wanted to go
and find a rave somewhere, but
eventually 10 of us including me,
Chopper, Mub, Mista Are, and some guys
from DCS ended up going into
Bridgwater to see if there was a good
nightclub that played Hardcore!  No
such luck!  After wandering around
aimlessly all the other guys except me
and Chopper went into this club called
Harley Dee's!  Me and Chopper decided
that Erasure was not hardcore and did
not go in!

As we were walking down the road
towards a taxi rank a bloke in front
of us said something like, "If you
don't stop following me i'm gonna kick
ya face in!", well we carried on
walking behind this guy and he then
said, "Are you fucking deaf or what?",
well as soon as we heard him say this
we crossed over cos he sounded like a
mad psycho killer from hell!  I think
we deserve to be in the Hardness Chart
though for resisting the temptation to
kick his head in when he threatened
us!  It takes a lot of strength to
hold back from a fight!  (he he!)
Well, we got to a taxi rank and
finally got ourselves a taxi back to
the party.  We thought it would be a
good laugh if we told everyone that
the reason we had come back without
the others was because they had got
into a fight and had been arrested!

The rumour spread pretty quickly and
we had a chortle over it!  Well, later
on the others returned and several
people asked Mub if he had been
arrested!  Of course he didn't know
what the salami they were talking
about so just said "Eh, oh yeah, it
was a great laff!" Thanks for taking
it as a joke Chris, we knew we could
count on you!

The time got to about 3:30 am and I
was a bit tired so I got myself a
blanket and placed it on the floor
ready for a nice kip.  I was awoken
about half an hour later by someone (I
think it was Mfd) writing GAY on my
face.  I felt what they were doing
straight away and wiped it off, stayed
wary for a few minutes and went back
to sleep.

I had a couple hours of sleep, got up
and wandered round talking to some
people.  The party began to get lively
again as people woke up and got back
onto their machines.  Mub woke up with
the words "BI-SEXUAL" written on his
face and curry sauce plastered in his
hair!  Great way to wake up I think!
(No it wasn't me by the way!, USM
wrote on your face!)  USM/Delicious
Design also tied Watchman's leg to a
table via the hole in the back of the
seat and through someone else's legs!
The demo competition was announced as
being at 10, and people gathered round
the screens to see the entries.  The
demos were shown, and people voted.
Soon after the winners were announced
as been the following:

"DEJA-VU" - Paradroid of Anarchy.
"Dynamic Illusions" - Ranx of Quartz.
"A Journey Into Divine Madness" -
 Majic Mushroom of Quartz

Closely followed by:
"Vectorama" - Chaos of EOC 1999
"Party Demo" - Rombust of Cybernetix

After this, some people packed up and
left while others lamed around
talking.

In the early afternoon, the five-a-
side football tournament started.
This consisted of just 2 teams:

The Wankers (Only joking guys!) -
MFD/Silents, Suicide/Doom, Master of
Puppets/Plasma (Sorry I fouled you so
often, you did get me back though!),
and two little kids who I haven't a
clue who they were!

Quartz - Snare, Mutant Mango, Orca,
and me.  Yes, we had a player missing
which is why we lost (Honest Guv'nor!)

The Wankers won by five goals to four,
but we let them win cos we all wanted
a drink!

After this spectacular display of
football, practically all of what was
left of the people in the hall
followed Jaz out onto a field for the
disk-throwing competition.  This was
fun to watch, as some people weighed
down their disks with pennies and two
pee's!  (Mind you this WAS allowed!)

The competition was won by a tiny kid
called OXO.

The last competition was about to
begin... TUG-O-WAR, who I don't know
who won it cos I didn't watch it, but
I know Mub fucked his arm up bad
style.  (Hope its ok now matey?
Looked nasty to me!)

The party wound down in the early
evening, and the last of the people
left except for those stopping at
Jaz's and us who were due (and I say
due) to leave around 9:00 pm.

The hall was cleaned up and looked
cleaner than when we found it and was
finally locked.

I checked my car... ARRRRGH!  There
was this hole in the neck of the
radiator!  I phoned National Breakdown
again and they came, and fitted a new
radiator and started the engine...
Water everywhere!  SHIIIIIIIT! "Sorry
mate, your head gaskets gone, that'll
cost ya 80 quid!"  Fuck!  Ripping
Bastard!

I decided that he would have to fix it
and he said he would have to do it in
the morning, and my car would be
returned to Jaz's at about 1:00 pm.
Reasonable, thought I.  So we went
back to Jaz's for the night, watched
tv etc while three Destiny members
slept in a barn!  (its no joke, they
liked it too!  You did Tantalus, you
told me mate! ha ha!)
Well, my car was picked up at 10:15 am
and was fixed (or was I fixed?).  It
was returned at 9:00 pm after 3 more
phone calls to the garage.  Come on,
its reasonable, it was only 8 hours
late... (Wankers)  So a whole day
later than planned and ONE HUNDRED AND
SIXTY TWO POUNDS later we were ready
to go...

We packed all our stuff in the car and
set off for home, dropping people off
on the way, with me arriving home at
4:30 am ready for work at 8:30!

"Fuck this", thought I, and told my
boss what had happened and had the day
off!  Yeah, fine style.

That's all I'm typing, I realise that
i've missed a lot of the things about
the party but I cannot be bothered to
continue!  Sorry, but I reckon there
will be a few more reports to read
too!

Its a good job the party was cool
otherwise I would have probably killed
myself with all the troubles of the
car!  I think I was fucked more times
that weekend than an Essex girl in a
week!

By the way, D-Man, you still owe me
nine quid.  By the time Mub knew the
story, you had fucked off home.  How
about me like getting this back this
year eh?  See my address in the
adverts.

Despite some "Car Trouble" (wasn't
that a film?) I thoroughly enjoyed the
whole weekend!

Greets going to: Jaz, Mutant Mango,
Snare, Paradroid, Mfd, USM, Mub (skin
up!), Pazza, Fish, Delbert, Mista Are,
Futura, End of Century 1999,
Blackbeard and Mr Moulinex, Tantalus
and the others that I have no time to
mention.

Thank you for coming to the party and
we hope to see you at the Q.S.C '93.

end.

    QUARTZ SUMMER CONFERENCE 1992

       THE ORGANIZERS PROBLEMS


           By Jaz of Quartz


Firstly I would like to apologise to
all of those of you who went to the
Quartz Summer Conference and expected
the big video screen that was sort of
promised.  Well there was definitely
going to be a 5ft square screen until
one of the electron guns blew.  There
were engineers there to fix it, but
unfortunately they were unable to get
hold of the part that they didn't
have.  We hope we some how made up for
it with the stack of T.V.'s.

Although this was only one of the
problems that we had.  When I
originally struck a deal with the
Venue's operators, they said that
they would sort out enough tables and
chairs, a P.A. system, the catering,
installing a larger power supply, the
clearing out of the main hall (which
was full of sports equipment) and
making sure the Venue was not booked
the night before, so we could set up.
First up here's the problem we had
with the Catering.

The day before the Conference the
Health and Safety Officers visited the
Venue's kitchens and after a brief
check, they were condemned and closed
down.  Great a two day Conference and
nowhere for the caterers to cook!
Panic time!  We rang around the local
snack wagons, none were available.
Shit!
Thankfully on the first day of the
Conference Orca of Quartz agreed to do
an hourly run to McDonalds, to pick up
peoples orders.  On the second day a
guy called Lawson managed to sort out
an area that as OK to cook food in.
Problem No.1 sorted.

Problem No.2.  The main hall hadn't
been cleared out.  The evening before
the Conference it was still full of
sports gear, lengths of timber, iron
bars etc.  OK so we were going to have
to clear it out ourselves.  But there
was nowhere we could dump it all, we
ended up having to put some of it into
the room we were going to use as the
Safe and Locker room, the rest of it
was dumped outside, around the back of

the main hall, it took 12 of us over
an hour to clear it out.  (Thanks to
all that helped!). Problem No.2
sorted.

Problem No.3.  Not enough tables, in
fact nowhere near enough.  The Venue
operators said that it was the best
they could do and to try hiring some
from somewhere else.  The first place
we tried was the local village hall.
One short phone call and I discovered
that the people who ran the village
hall, didn't very like the people who
ran the Sports and Social Club (Our
Venue) Something to do with poor
management and a £100,000 debt in
unpaid V.A.T!  At first they said that
there was no way that their tables
were going in the Social Club, but
after a few words of how much I was

pissed off with the Social Club
operators, they agreed to letting
me hire some tables, but only the
trestle tables, and no matter how much
I tried there was no way he was going
to let us have any more.  We then had
the slight problem of how we were
going to get the tables to the Venue.
Orca again leaps to the rescue by
letting us shove them in his car.  But
when we got back to the Venue we found
a whole load of Archers had set up in
there!  The Venue operators had booked
out the main hall to them that night!
Thankfully they would be leaving at 9
o`clock, so it was just a matter of
waiting around until they left.
Problem No.3 sorted.

Problem No.4.  No P.A. system.  I
couldn't believe that they could let
us down with that as they have a P.A.
system, but I was told that we
couldn't have it as it was only wired
up for the bar room and the speakers
were all screwed to the walls.  By
chance when we went down to the
village hall to collect the tables, we
saw a couple of guys putting a load of
P.A. gear into the back of van, a
quick word with them and they agreed
to letting us hire it from them for 40
quid, and that they would take it down
to the Venue for us in an hour or so.
One hour later back at the Venue, one
of the guys turned up and said that he
was sorry but we couldn't have it.

Thankfully Ranx had brought an Amp
with him, and I have an Amp as well,
so we linked them up with two sets of
speakers, which was enough to drown
out everyone else's noise.  But there

was so much feed back from the
microphone, that we had to go into
another part of the hall to make
announcements!  Problem No.4 sorted.

Thankfully that was the last of our
major problems.  Except for when some
one got into the indoor bowling green
and covered the floor with stickers!

Despite all these problems there will
be another Conference next year!

Many thanks to the following people
without their help it all wouldn't
have been possible;

Lawson - Many Thanks for all the help
you gave.
Orca/Quartz - Thanks for all your help
You must have driven miles!!
Ranx/Quartz - Many Thanks for all your
help!  Especially for talking me down!
Majic Mushroom/Quartz - Yeah Mate!
Many Thanks for doing the door, and
getting everyone's cash!  Smart!
Mutant Mango/Quartz - Thanks for doing
the shop and helping with the clear
out!
Chopper/Quartz - Yeah Mate!  Thanks
for doing the door, and clearing out.
Snare/Quartz - Many Thanks for doing
the shop and helping clear out.
Xanadu, Paradius, Laydock/Quartz -
Many Thanks for helping clear out!
Hydlide/Quartz - Thanks for clearing
out and getting totally rat-arsed!
Many thanks to these other guys who
helped clear out:-
 Paradroid/Anarchy,     MFD/Silents,
 USM/Delicious Design,  Suicide/Doom

end.
    QUARTZ SUMMER CONFERENCE 1992

      EXPLANATION OF THE RESULTS


           By Jaz of Quartz


After reading the Quartz Summer
Conference Report by Bob/SDT in Stolen
Data issue 9 and his comments on why
Elwood of Delicious Design was allowed
to win the Graphics competition even
though he was not there and also that
there were no other members of
Delicious Design were there either and
why Quartz won both the second and
third prize in the Demo competition
and that the only reason that Snare
won the Music competition was because
all his mates voted for him.  I felt I
should respond to this and explain.
It seems that you didn't realise that
the manager of Delicious Design (USM)
was actually there (and by the end of
Conference there were two more members
there).  So it seemed fair that
Eldwood's entry should be allowed.  We
never stated in the competition rules
that the entries creator had to be
there for an entry to be excepted.
Remember Krest won the graphics
competition at the last Digital Party,
and he wasn't there, and no one
complained then.

Why were Quartz allowed to win both
the second and third prize in the Demo
competition?  If you had read the
rules in both the party inftros, it
said that there was a maximum of one
win per CODER, not GROUP.  So just
because Ranx of Quartz won second
prize, this does not mean that no
other coder in Quartz can win a prize.
Again remember at the Anarchy party,
Anarchy won both first and third
prizes with different coders for both
of the productions.  So what's the
difference?

As for your comment that the only
reason that Snare won the Music
competition was because all his mates
voted for him, how do you know this?
Did you see all the voting forms?  I
think not.

Music competitions are always the most
difficult to judge, as it is hard to
put aside the bias of personal taste
and opinion.  So if large number of
people preferred Snares tune, and you
didn't then that's just the way things
go.  This is not a personal attack on
you, I just wanted to clear the matter
up, incase anyone else felt the same
way.

[This always happens doesn't it?
Someone accuses the organisers of a
party of somehow rigging the results,
or letting the undeserving enter and
win.  I would like to make it clear
that;

- Not only where Delicious Design
members there, but Bernard Sumner of
LSD interviewed two of them!

- I was there at the counting of the
demo competition results and there was
some "voting for my friend" going on, 
BUT THIS WAS FOR THE DEMOS THAT CAME 
4TH AND 5TH BEING VOTED AS BEST!  I 
won't comment on who was doing this, 
but it amounted to such a small amount
of votes, it couldn't effect the 
outcome of the competition.

- I also looked at other competition
voting forms and again 99% of votes
cast where for the deserving entries.

- There is nothing anyone can do about
the 1% "voting for their friends", but
the votes are wasted anyhow, so who 
cares!

- In my opinion Snare`s music was one
of the best there.

- Bob`s report also states Mub of LSD
was arrested, he wasn`t!

- I have turned down one Grapevine
article about Bob already, questioning
his coding abilities, perhaps I 
shouldn't have!
                               
Pazza!]

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